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09-15-2006, 06:23 AM Ougarit Joined on 11-19-2005 CAN Posts 217 jewish plans for Damascus Hello, Our beloved Damascus is a target of the jews according to their "loving-peacfull religious faith-book", under Isaiah 17... An Oracle Concerning Damascus...I wonder if the "oracle" they are refering to is a giant mushroom.... 17:1 An oracle concerning Damascus. Behold, Damascus will cease to be a city and will become a heap of ruins. 2 The cities of Aroer are deserted; they will be for flocks, which will lie down, and none will make them afraid. 3 The fortress will disappear from Ephraim, and the kingdom from Damascus; and the remnant of Syria will be like the glory of the children of Israel, declares the Lord of hosts. 4 And in that day the glory of Jacob will be brought low, and the fat of his flesh will grow lean. 5 And it shall be as when the reaper gathers standing grain and his arm harvests the ears, and as when one gleans the ears of grain in the Valley of Rephaim. 6 Gleanings will be left in it, as when an olive tree is beaten— two or three berries in the top of the highest bough, four or five on the branches of a fruit tree, declares the Lord God of Israel. 7 In that day man will look to his Maker, and his eyes will look on the Holy One of Israel. 8 He will not look to the altars, the work of his hands, and he will not look on what his own fingers have made, either the Asherim or the altars of incense. 9 In that day their strong cities will be like the deserted places of the wooded heights and the hilltops, which they deserted because of the children of Israel, and there will be desolation. 10 For you have forgotten the God of your salvation and have not remembered the Rock of your refuge; therefore, though you plant pleasant plants and sow the vine-branch of a stranger, 11 though you make them grow [1] on the day that you plant them, and make them blossom in the morning that you sow, yet the harvest will flee away [2] in a day of grief and incurable pain. 12 Ah, the thunder of many peoples; they thunder like the thundering of the sea! Ah, the roar of nations; they roar like the roaring of mighty waters! 13 The nations roar like the roaring of many waters, but he will rebuke them, and they will flee far away, chased like chaff on the mountains before the wind and whirling dust before the storm. 14 At evening time, behold, terror! Before morning, they are no more! This is the portion of those who loot us, and the lot of those who plunder us. آه يا شام.. كيف أشرح ما بي وأنا فيـكِ دائمـاً مسكونُ    Report

09-17-2006, 08:41 PM Jedidiah777 Joined on 02-22-2006 Posts 631 Re: jewish plans for Damascus Well Ougarit, you are in the right book you are in the Bible! …and everything will come in fulfillment, just as it is predicted, because it is the Word of God. But thank God, we are still in the time of grace and the judgement has not arrived yet.  It will not only affect Damascus, but if you go a couple of chapters further, eventually there will be destruction to the whole earth. (…and God will create a new heaven and a new earth Rev 21:1  And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.) Warnings of prophets of God were meant first constructive, so people will change their ways, because God loves mankind and offers grace, if people heed to the warnings. copy/paste Impending Judgment on the Earth Isaiah 24 1 Behold, the LORD makes the earth empty and makes it waste, Distorts its surface And scatters abroad its inhabitants. 2 And it shall be: As with the people, so with the priest; As with the servant, so with his master; As with the maid, so with her mistress; As with the buyer, so with the seller; As with the lender, so with the borrower; As with the creditor, so with the debtor. 3 The land shall be entirely emptied and utterly plundered, For the LORD has spoken this word. 4 The earth mourns and fades away, The world languishes and fades away; The haughty people of the earth languish. 5 The earth is also defiled under its inhabitants, Because they have transgressed the laws, Changed the ordinance, Broken the everlasting covenant. 6 Therefore the curse has devoured the earth, For the windows from on high are open, …….. And the foundations of the earth are shaken. 19 The earth is violently broken, The earth is split open, The earth is shaken exceedingly. 20 The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, And shall totter like a hut; Its transgression shall be heavy upon it, And it will fall, and not rise again. 21 It shall come to pass in that day That the LORD will punish on high the host of exalted ones, And on the earth the kings of the earth. 22 They will be gathered together, As prisoners are gathered in the pit, And will be shut up in the prison; After many days they will be punished. 23 Then the moon will be disgraced And the sun ashamed; For the LORD of hosts will reign On Mount Zion and in Jerusalem And before His elders, gloriously.    Report

09-18-2006, 02:05 PM syrianstud Joined on 11-20-2005 SYR Posts 45 Re: jewish plans for Damascus I strongly suggest that you stop reading the Bible as it was written by men just like you and I....read the Koran as it is the final truth and through it will you find all your answers.   Confused    Report

09-18-2006, 04:00 PM Ougarit Joined on 11-19-2005 CAN Posts 217 Re: jewish plans for Damascus  syrianstud wrote: I strongly suggest that you stop reading the Bible as it was written by men just like you and I....read the Koran as it is the final truth and through it will you find all your answers. I don’t think the bible is better then the Koran, or the Koran is better then the bible.  The bible contains two books, the old testament (torah) and the New Testament. The New Testament is the life of Jesus and the work of the disciples after his death.  This book is the book of love, forgiveness, universality and peace.  It was written by the hand of man, but by the spirit of the Holy Ghost (al ro7 al kodoss).  If you study the New Testament, you will see that there is no difference at all in the messages with Islam. The other book is the old testament or the torah.  This book is the book of violence, revenge, hate, exclusion, murdering, where God kills, punishes, destroys and revenge, where an ethnic group is promised a land by god, even if god himself must do genocides like holding up the sun to allow the chosen people continuing the ethnic cleansing of other tribes.  That book was written by the hand of man under the word of Satan. It is the same book where god orders the annihilation of the people of Canaan (us, Syrians) and where there is not a single page that doesn’t have bloodshed and killing, with god as a major sponsor. Many Christians have rejected the old testament, like me and many others. A simple question, wasn’t the Koran also written by man???   آه يا شام.. كيف أشرح ما بي وأنا فيـكِ دائمـاً مسكونُ    Report

09-18-2006, 11:59 PM Jedidiah777 Joined on 02-22-2006 Posts 631 Re: jewish plans for Damascus To Ougarit, first of all the Old Testament is not one book, but comprises 39 books from 32 different writers, covers 3600 years of man’s history, 1500 years in writing – ONE author, which is God Himself. (Law, History, Poetry, Prophecy) The New Testament: 27 books, 8 writers, covers 100 years – ONE author, which is God. (Biographies of Christ, History of the Church, Instructions to the Church, Prophecy) According to the Bible, in the final analysis its author is God Himself. “All Scripture is given by inspiration of God” (2 Tim 3:16) (God-breathed) The Bible emanated from God. It is God’s communication to humanity. In addition, the Bible has withstood centuries of attack by its enemies, from Roman attempts to destroy it physically, to medieval attempts to ban it from the masses, to atheistic attempts to discredit it and prove it false. Relating to this subject, I copy/paste following articles (excerpts from David K. Bernard’s book, God’s infallible Word). I recommend this book for reading. (but not for the first books to read, it's kind of scientific...) Inspiration of the Old Testament Most of the books of the Bible say that they record God's message; such a claim is made for about twenty-six of the thirty-nine Old Testament books. The remain­ing books are historical or poetical; by their very nature we would not typically expect them to make a direct state­ment of inspiration. Several of them were appended to other books that contain such a claim. In each case, the traditional writers were known to be prophetic, and the books were included in a given section for which the Bible claims inspiration. The prophets repeatedly proclaimed, "Thus says the LORD." They affirmed that their messages were God's words, and these claims are so per­vasive that they effectively encompass the entire Old Testament. The ancient Hebrews identified their Scriptures as the Law and the Prophets, which includes all of our Old Testament. Both testaments describe the books in each category as the Word of God. Jesus and the New Testament writers accepted the Old Testament as divinely inspired. They described the Old Testament as "the Scriptures" and "the word of God" (Matthew 21:42; 22:29; Mark 7:13; John 10:35). Paul used the term Scripture to refer to the very words of God, even when God spoke them long before they were recorded in writing. "For the Scripture says to Pharaoh" (Romans 9:17). "And the Scripture ... preached the gospel to Abraham beforehand" (Galatians 3:8). He used "Scrip­ture says" as the equivalent of "God, as recorded in Scrip­ture, says." As these examples show, the New Testament writers considered the term Scripture to refer to the very words of God Himself. Jesus and the New Testament writers had such a high view of the inspiration of Scripture that they referred to God as the author of Old Testament passages that are not direct quotes from God but are historical narratives or even human statements addressed to God. For exam­ple, Jesus attributed to God Himself an explanatory state­ment in the Creation narrative (Genesis 2:24; Matthew 19:4-5). Peter identified a rhetorical question of the psalmist as the words of God Himself (Psalm 2:1-2; Acts 4:25-26). Paul likewise described words of David ad­dressed to God as a saying of God (Psalm 16:10; Acts 13:35). The writer of Hebrews attributed to God various statements in Psalms that are addressed to God as well as the narrator's statement in Genesis 2:2. (See Psalm 45:6; 102:25-27; 104:4; Hebrews 1:7-12; 4:4.) In short, what Scripture says God says. 5. God reveals truth progressively from the Old Testament  to the New Testament. "The law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor" (Galatians 3:24-25). There is a progression from material to spiritual, as spiritual truths are first taught in physical types. "There­fore let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regard­ing a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ" (Colossians 2:16-17). The Bible leads us to greater morality and spirituali­ty under the new covenant. Moral law is unchanging; it is inherent in the nature of God and in the original created order. But the fall of the human race brought gross spiritual darkness. To bring us into the fullness of His original plan for our race and planet, God has patient­ly instructed us a step at a time, so that in the New Testament church we see the highest expression of God's will for us individually and collectively. For instance, God's original created order did not allow for polygamy, war, or divorce. In Old Testament times God sought to regulate these evils and worked with humans who were subject to them, but in the New Testament He calls believers to overcome them and gives them power to do so. (See Mat­thew 5:17-48; 19:3-12; Romans 8:3-4.) And to Syrianstud: If you don’t believe in the Bible, it’s eventually your biggest problem you ever had (when you stand before God, as everybody does one day). But I don’t give up on you, understanding is the key, so we continue communication and teaching… Yes, and I love to read the Bible daily, spiritual starvation is even worth than physical starvation. PS: Try to get back to some other points another time. God bless you Jedidiah    Report

09-19-2006, 05:08 AM Ougarit Joined on 11-19-2005 CAN Posts 217 Re: jewish plans for Damascus Jeddidah,   I think you should understand some things here….   Quote from you :    “first of all the Old Testament is not one book, but comprises 39 books from 32 different writers, covers 3600 years of man’s history, 1500 years in writing – ONE author, which is God Himself. “     First, the old testament does not cover 3600 years of man’s history.  It doesn’t even cover one single day of man’s journey.  This fascist-racist book is a jewish politico-mythological manuscript and not a history book.  In fact, no religious or spiritual book can be considered as an historic reference, if done it will lead to theological states, which will result in genocides, decadence, oppression and racial exclusion, the perfect example is the jewish entity.  Besides, man’s journey is too great to be reduced on cheap bullshit stories like who will sleep with Abraham, his wife or his whore Sarah.  Again, it is ok, you are blinded by religious fanatism while we have freed ourselves from that hate and are now living in peace and mutual respect with others, and not trying to convert the world.  Second, it will be an insult to all religions to declare that the old testament is written by God, no my friend it is written by evil, by Satan and Lucifer.  The New Testament is written by God and the Holly Koran is also written by God because both of them show messages of love, respect, peace and universality of religion, while the old testament is a nothing more then a stack of hate, revenge, killing, raping, human sacrifices, genocides, racism, exclusion and despotic dominance of one chosen people over the entire humans.   Free your minds from religion and embrace life as citizens of the world.   Regards,   Ougarit آه يا شام.. كيف أشرح ما بي وأنا فيـكِ دائمـاً مسكونُ    Report

09-19-2006, 10:49 AM syrianstud Joined on 11-20-2005 SYR Posts 45 Re: jewish plans for Damascus Jedidah...trust me...as a Muslim...i'm confident that all of us (Muslims and Christians) will go to heaven if we do good deeds and worship god for his love and beauty.....unlike the old testament which equates the non-chosen or unfortunate ones or dammed ones as ANIMALS....or a word that you're probably more familliar with..GOYIM.....   And by the way...all Syrians go to heaven because we're perfect :)     Confused    Report

09-19-2006, 02:56 PM Ougarit Joined on 11-19-2005 CAN Posts 217 Re: jewish plans for Damascus  syrianstud wrote: Jedidah...trust me...as a Muslim...i'm confident that all of us (Muslims and Christians) will go to heaven if we do good deeds and worship god for his love and beauty.....unlike the old testament which equates the non-chosen or unfortunate ones or dammed ones as ANIMALS....or a word that you're probably more familliar with..GOYIM..... And by the way...all Syrians go to heaven because we're perfect :) Hi Syrianstud, I often refer to the term Muslim for both of us, because after all we are all Muslims (mouslimin li rab al 3alamin) but we are in two different schools of toughts:  massi7iyeh and mou7amadiyeh. Regards, Ougarit آه يا شام.. كيف أشرح ما بي وأنا فيـكِ دائمـاً مسكونُ    Report

03-04-2007, 04:34 PM wildsyrian Joined on 03-04-2007 Posts 10 Re: jewish plans for Damascus Hey !! i was reading carefully the whole conversation. And i fully agree with Ougarit  ;) how can you be a student and critisize other religions or other believe? The bible or the coran are coming from the same God. There are no a "muslim god" or "jew god" or "christian god" or even buddhist "god".... we are clever enough to not say such stupid thing that could be said by Lebanese people, they are even killing each other for such thought..even between muslim, unbelievable... who has the truth ? everybody and nobody..only God knows.. we are all muslim, anyway, it doesn't matter which book we read... bye      Report

03-06-2007, 12:12 AM Jedidiah777 Joined on 02-22-2006 Posts 631 Re: jewish plans for Damascus Hey Wildsyrian, you truly live up to your name, cuz you have some really "wild" ideas: Quote: The bible or the coran are coming from the same God. Recommend some homework and then come back for communication. Quote: There are no a "muslim god" or "jew god" or "christian god" or even buddhist "god".... You are right about that, there is only ONE God. The question is, WHO is He? Quote: Who has the truth? Well, God has it and He is sharing it with us… Wanna find out? Pray to God to lead you into all truth. Made a word search in the Bible in e-sword (bible software) for the word “truth” and had 237 hits. Please check these Scriptures out, you said that you believe the Bible is from God. (and even if you would not say it, it is so) Recommend this Bible software, it’s a wonderful program, free downloads for Bibles in many languages, including Arabic, English etc. Great study tools…, I use it about every day. Here is the URL: http://www.e-sword.net/. Quote: we are all muslim, anyway, it doesn't matter which book we read... You are kidding. Anybody in our days might claim anything everywhere, but that doesn’t make it necessarily true. For example, if I claim all Chinese citizens are actual Africans, makes no difference to what they are. The Chinese know that they are Chinese and the Africans know that the Chinese are no Africans, but I can make blahblahblah… God and the spiritual world knows who we are and here on this earth you know it right away what people believe from their confession. If somebody claims over my dead body, “this person was a muslim”, what does it matter? (it’s just a lie, wouldn't be my problem) But as long as I am alive, I proclaim the wonderful name of Jesus, in Whom I believe. And of course our life and actions speak loud as well, because talking is not enough. You claim all people are muslims, so what? I would not even agree that all are Christians, who claim that they are Christians. Have they obeyed the plan of salvation, as it is written in Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.  And of course this is just a start (faith and action at work); a Christian life is a life long journey and you have to be faithful to God unto the end. If people don’t line up with the Bible and claim they are Christians, they better obey the Word of God, because to just claim something doesn’t necessarily make you right with God. One more thing: My God is alive, He is a miracle working God. Yesterday in church I heard a testimony from a brother (know him for about 20 years), who fought heavy diabetes, high blood pressure, etc for years and was told by the doctor that his kidneys became so bad that he is close to dialysis. Well, this is the past  -- Jesus healed him completely. The doctors couldn’t understand. In all these years he faithfully served God and trusted Him for his healing, I was waiting for this testimony, I knew it will happen one day and here it was. He does not inject insulin for 5 month now and has excellent medical reports (also for the kidneys) from the doctors. Believe me, we had some good shouts and thanksgiving to God for this. Check it out for yourself, please pray to God to lead you to a good Holy Ghost filled church, visit the mosques, visit the church again, pray about it; read the Bible and read the Quran and pray to God to reveal the truth to you (only one book can be from God, because God is not contradictory/ does not conflict Himself) and well, I am sure, He will lead you, if you do this with an open heart. And since you believe that the Bible and Quran are coming from the same God, you should have no problem with this… Quote: we are clever enough to not say such stupid thing that could be said by Lebanese people, they are even killing each other for such thought..even between muslim, unbelievable... You are right, it’s unbelievable, killing people has never something to do with God. Well, that’s for now. Took the time to respond, but for other “wild” statements I might not take the time. We all have to do our home works. ;o) May God bless you and may you search for truth Jedidiah    Report

03-06-2007, 12:23 PM wildsyrian Joined on 03-04-2007 Posts 10 Re: jewish plans for Damascus  Jedidiah777 wrote: Hey Wildsyrian, you truly live up to your name, cuz you have some really "wild" ideas: Quote: The bible or the coran are coming from the same God. Recommend some homework and then come back for communication. Quote: There are no a "muslim god" or "jew god" or "christian god" or even buddhist "god".... You are right about that, there is only ONE God. The question is, WHO is He? Quote: Who has the truth? Well, God has it and He is sharing it with us… Wanna find out? Pray to God to lead you into all truth. Made a word search in the Bible in e-sword (bible software) for the word “truth” and had 237 hits. Please check these Scriptures out, you said that you believe the Bible is from God. (and even if you would not say it, it is so) Recommend this Bible software, it’s a wonderful program, free downloads for Bibles in many languages, including Arabic, English etc. Great study tools…, I use it about every day. Here is the URL: http://www.e-sword.net/. Quote: we are all muslim, anyway, it doesn't matter which book we read... You are kidding. Anybody in our days might claim anything everywhere, but that doesn’t make it necessarily true. For example, if I claim all Chinese citizens are actual Africans, makes no difference to what they are. The Chinese know that they are Chinese and the Africans know that the Chinese are no Africans, but I can make blahblahblah… God and the spiritual world knows who we are and here on this earth you know it right away what people believe from their confession. If somebody claims over my dead body, “this person was a muslim”, what does it matter? (it’s just a lie, wouldn't be my problem) But as long as I am alive, I proclaim the wonderful name of Jesus, in Whom I believe. And of course our life and actions speak loud as well, because talking is not enough. You claim all people are muslims, so what? I would not even agree that all are Christians, who claim that they are Christians. Have they obeyed the plan of salvation, as it is written in Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.  And of course this is just a start (faith and action at work); a Christian life is a life long journey and you have to be faithful to God unto the end. If people don’t line up with the Bible and claim they are Christians, they better obey the Word of God, because to just claim something doesn’t necessarily make you right with God. One more thing: My God is alive, He is a miracle working God. Yesterday in church I heard a testimony from a brother (know him for about 20 years), who fought heavy diabetes, high blood pressure, etc for years and was told by the doctor that his kidneys became so bad that he is close to dialysis. Well, this is the past  -- Jesus healed him completely. The doctors couldn’t understand. In all these years he faithfully served God and trusted Him for his healing, I was waiting for this testimony, I knew it will happen one day and here it was. He does not inject insulin for 5 month now and has excellent medical reports (also for the kidneys) from the doctors. Believe me, we had some good shouts and thanksgiving to God for this. Check it out for yourself, please pray to God to lead you to a good Holy Ghost filled church, visit the mosques, visit the church again, pray about it; read the Bible and read the Quran and pray to God to reveal the truth to you (only one book can be from God, because God is not contradictory/ does not conflict Himself) and well, I am sure, He will lead you, if you do this with an open heart. And since you believe that the Bible and Quran are coming from the same God, you should have no problem with this… Quote: we are clever enough to not say such stupid thing that could be said by Lebanese people, they are even killing each other for such thought..even between muslim, unbelievable... You are right, it’s unbelievable, killing people has never something to do with God. Well, that’s for now. Took the time to respond, but for other “wild” statements I might not take the time. We all have to do our home works. ;o) May God bless you and may you search for truth Jedidiah :D :D :D Ha! Ha! Ha! You are so funny... Sorry, i do not do any open conversation with Extremists ....Ha! Ha! Ha!        Report

04-09-2008, 12:53 PM oo7 Joined on 04-05-2008 Posts 2 Re: jewish plans for Damascus Perfectly correct. Who has the truth ? Surely not me. If everybody started by thinking like that, then that would save many wars death and desolation in the world. I am not a jew, nor a christian or a muslim, neither a budhist. I am just a Human Being. Isn't that what God wants afterall. I am not better nor worse that the others. By being modest, I might someday reach the Truth. I believe that each one of us has a part of truth in himself. Just a little tiny. For the people who believe to detain the TRUTH, shall we call them God ?    Report

04-11-2008, 01:17 AM Jedidiah777 Joined on 02-22-2006 Posts 631 Re: jewish plans for Damascus BTW, sorry,I don't know Damascus at all, can't help you with your question. 007, you must have dug to get to this message...[:D] Perfectly correct. (…?) Who has the truth ? Surely not me. Well, there is good news, you can receive it… If everybody started by thinking like that, then that would save many wars death and desolation in the world. I highly doubt that, because all destruction comes from the father of lies and not from Truth. And this kind of thinking surely does not bring personal salvation to you either... I am not a jew, nor a christian or a muslim, neither a budhist. I am just a Human Being. Isn't that what God wants afterall. Hmm, just like everybody -- a human being with a sin problem… I am not better nor worse that the others. By being modest, I might someday reach the Truth. I don’t see nowhere in the Bible that truth can be received by being modest… What instead is required: a hunger for truth and receiving it from God, acknowledging our sinfulness and need and who we are, acknowledging God is supreme and He is the Truth and shares it with us (not just as a philosophical issue, but life changing and powerful; it’s the most precious gift, one has it and would sell it for anything this world has to offer, would be the greatest fool on earth… and I believe that each one of us has a part of truth in himself. Just a little tiny. …well, even if this would be true, 99 percent truth is not really truth, how about the rest? Truth is in God, so for us to have truth in us, we must have God’s Spirit in us… For the people who believe to detain the TRUTH, shall we call them God ? I don’t understand this statement completely, but no matter what, one can call no one and nothing to be God beside Him. Jesus spoke in John 16:13-14 However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come. He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you. Eph 1,13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise 2 Thess 2:13 But we ought always to thank God for you, brothers loved by the Lord, because from the beginning God chose you to be saved through the sanctifying work of the Spirit and through belief in the truth. Jesus also tells in John 8:44-45 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! The most important issue in life – to which side do we belong… and as long someone has breath and by God's grace, one can change the camp…    Report

04-12-2008, 12:43 AM Jedidiah777 Joined on 02-22-2006 Posts 631 Re: jewish plans for Damascus PS: in reference to this scripture: Jesus also tells in John 8:44-45 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! Didn't quote this scripture to address you personally. Jesus spoke here to a spiritual leadership (scribes and Pharisees), who opposed the work of God and had no clue about divine issues. Don' t depend only on people (including ourselves), they can mislead, but by seeking God and studying the Word of God, you will receive direction. We all do not deserve the things of God, but God wants to give if freely to us. Indifference, deception, pride, religion, unbelief etc can rob us of these things.    Report

08-30-2008, 07:48 AM crazyivan Joined on 11-19-2005 Posts 1,543 Re: jewish plans for Damascus what you wrote is too long and is probably not worth my time. All I wanted to say is that religious people should really stop spreading hatred. You are referencing something that some dude, just like you and me, wrote a few thousand years ago. You are taking this *** too seriously.    Report

09-03-2008, 01:26 AM Jedidiah777 Joined on 02-22-2006 Posts 631 Re: jewish plans for Damascus quote...what you wrote is too long... might be true quote...All I wanted to say is that religious people should really stop spreading hatred. ...and I agree with that, but this as unrealistic as you would demand, people should stop making war or everybody should be good... quote...You are referencing something that some dude, just like you and me, wrote a few thousand years ago. Referring to God¢s prophet as some dudes like you and me... - - it would be good for you to invest some time to read... anyway they are not the authors, God told them exactly what to write down... and this Word matters: John 12:47-48 As for the person who hears my words but does not keep them, I do not judge him. For I did not come to judge the world, but to save it. There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; that very word which I spoke will condemn him at the last day. I know, you don¢t believe this, but this does not change the fact!    Report

09-03-2008, 04:13 AM crazyivan Joined on 11-19-2005 Posts 1,543 Re: jewish plans for Damascus oh please dont tell me to invest some time to read. This is as disrespectful as a person can be! Do you really think that I dont know what religious people think is the difference between a man and a prophet? I do know what the difference is supposed to be. but i dont believe in it. cause prophets are just "me7taleen" I tried reading what books that god wrote, but they proved to be kinda.. how can I put this without hurting your feelings? uninteresting!    Report

09-04-2008, 02:04 AM Jedidiah777 Joined on 02-22-2006 Posts 631 Re: jewish plans for Damascus Well, I do not doubt that you have knowledge, crazyivan (know that you are a well educated guy), don’t be insulted. But what you are lacking or don’t have is spiritual insight. Therefore I recommended reading and reading God's Word is powerful, you would give yourself a chance... Knowledge without spiritual insight doesn’t profit much, when it comes to faith. (it's also a matter of the heart) Quote: I tried reading what books that god wrote, but they proved to be kinda..., Hm, the Book from God proves to be kinda faithful, miraculous and awesome to me every day... (know that you also could get there with some prayer, serious soul searching and repentance...) What really hurts me is the fact what people miss out, when they reject the truth! God bless you!    Report

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